What other old, forgotten games would you like to return ?

flykas · Post by **flykas** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:56 am

What othe old games would you lik to return and surprise you like carma did, for me it would be:

Screamer 4x4

1nsane

street legal

myst (I know it wont happen, the're working on OBDUCTION now)

Sea Dogs

Hard truck

Black and White

AlexTSK · Post by **AlexTSK** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:17 pm

Street legal was stated to return this year actually, but both indiegogo and kickstarter campaigns for it failed pretty hard, I wonder if its ever going to be made.

RiOrus · Post by **RiOrus** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:27 pm

It doesn't need a HD reboot as I've played the gog version in the last couple of years but I always thought Kingpin doesn't ever seem to get the praise it deserves. Always dwarfed by same era FPS such as half life and Deus EX.

Screamer 2 was my first PC racing experience. So a screamer of some sort might be welcome? As Flykas mentioned.

Also in the shadow of same era fighters, Primal Rage was underrated, spent a lot of time on that with my mates when I was a young'un.

AlexTSK · Post by **AlexTSK** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:46 pm

The commandos series comes to mind, especially a game that takes commandos 2 and improves upon it, that I'd love to see.

Epitaph · Post by **Epitaph** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:10 pm

Duke Nukem

City Of The Lost Children

Nocturne (DUH)

Ignition

The House Of the Dead

Lomax

Outlaws

LordToastALot · Post by **LordToastALot** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 4:23 pm

Magic Carpet (I know about Arcane Worlds but it's in such an early stage and I want a AAA title)

Jet Set Radio Future

...I'm tired, I'll probably think of some more later.

Fuel · Post by **Fuel** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:05 pm

CarVup

FunnyOctopus · Post by **FunnyOctopus** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:38 pm

Xwing alliance (or tie fighter)

Freeride Forever · Post by **Freeride Forever** » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:30 pm

RiOrus wrote:I always thought Kingpin doesn't ever seem to get the praise it deserves. Always dwarfed by same era FPS such as half life and Deus EX.

Yeah the 'hallmark' of that one was all the swearing. Not really much to praise I'm afraid. It takes a bit more when you're going up against stuff like HL & DE. Entertaining game though. I think I played through it 2X. I was blown away when I heard Ving Rhames doin' his Pulp Fiction routine. Love Ving.

For me, it's all Powerslide. If I could have a modern redo of one game besides Carma it'd for sure be Powerslide, BUT lately I've also been thinking that it'd be great if Bethesda redid Fallout & Fallout 2.

lemonrev · Post by **lemonrev** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:34 am

most of these games on are gog.com

I like Epitaph's list, i have the original and still broke version of ignition on pc, it still works a jem but you get to like level 5 or something and you playing the game and it just breaks. YAY for game

outlaws was a good game as well, 2 cd's and a pack full of hurt in caves and the outback.

I got a list on GOG.com about all the games i still have originally and gog.com still hasnt got on there list, Like Track attack. and Truckz, and lego racers, animal (3d shooter style), many more games, from the past that still do not exist on gog but there getting there slowly

RiOrus · Post by **RiOrus** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:52 am

hmm, you have a point, although for me it was the damage textures and dismemberment as well as being able to contextually respond to people in game, and also recruit gang members. It was all new to me at the time and relatively new the genre. The language and brutality really made it feel mature in an 'adult' way to me though, which was exciting as a spotty little teenager. The were quite a few PC FPS games that were light years ahead of console counterparts. Everyone went ape shit for Goldeneye (which I spent a lot of time playing also) but there were other classics like SiN, Blood / Blood 2, soldier of fortune, half life, Kingpin, Deus Ex, Shadow Warrior, Redneck Rampage. So on so forth.

KakkaHousu · Post by **KakkaHousu** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:24 am

Outlaws

That would be glorious! In 2.5d, like original, and hand-drawn sprites.

Duke Nukem

We already got DNF. Though it sucks if compared to DN 3D.

LordToastALot · Post by **LordToastALot** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:25 pm

lemonrev wrote:most of these games on are gog.com

This is about remakes/remasters/sequels though?

KakkaHousu wrote:We already got DNF. Though it sucks if compared to DN 3D.

Supposedly Gearbox intend to make their own Duke Nukem game at some point now they have the rights. Might be decent, if Anthony Burch gets kept a million fucking miles away.

EDIT: Just found out he left in January to work on some TV show. Thank fuck.

Wilbur Cobb · Post by **Wilbur Cobb** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:29 pm

Twisted Metal.

Did you know it was the 20th anniversary of Twisted Metal at the start of this month?

Even Sonic the Sodding Hedgehog got a huge celebration game out of it, and it was actually well made and fun.

What'd Twisted Metal get? The "omnipotent" honour of being an extremely tedious easter egg that's exclusive to only the ps4 version of a game that's only ever sensibly played on the pc (I'm talking about Rocket League)?

That isn't a celebration, that's a lazy and unheartfelt attempt at making Sony's most historic IP relevant for an extra week.

Boo, Sony. Boo.

KakkaHousu · Post by **KakkaHousu** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:57 pm

Supposedly Gearbox intend to make their own Duke Nukem game at some point now they have the rights. Might be decent, if Anthony Burch gets kept a million fucking miles away.

I know Anthony is (now former) member of Gearbox and lead writer of Borderland, but why he is bad? Why he should kept outside development?

The commandos series

I really like first Commandos and its expansion. I never got to grips with added features of second and third. Another great similar game to Commandos is Desperados. Though, I don't know if I want remake either of them. Both are good enough in today's standards, they don't suffer from dated graphics and gameplay is still solid.

Truckz

What is this game? I know Trucks, Microfolie's weird old car combat game, but not Truckz.

Hard truck

Demo version of first Hard Truck was my first racing game alongside of Colin McRae Rally 1, so I have good memories of it, but I hope they never make reboot. Actually it was very crappy game. If you like second one more than first, then there is 18 wheels of steel, which is basically same series as HT, just different name.

Blood

First Blood is great game, it really is reboot worthy. I think remake or reboot was planned, but it got cancelled for some reason. Blood is my favourite of all Build engine games. Better than DN3D or Redneck Rampage. I can't think any other FPS game that have as brutal weapons as Blood.

Edit. http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Blood-Remake-Rejected-By-Atari-52647.html

Twisted Metal

Remake of first Twisted Metal would be great. I would still rather see reboot of Rogue Trip. My first Twisted Metal styled game, so it have special place in my heart.

I also would like to see Interstate 76' remake and Quarantine reboot.

Freeride Forever · Post by **Freeride Forever** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:18 am

RiOrus wrote:hmm, you have a point, although for me it was the damage textures and dismemberment as well as being able to contextually respond to people in game, and also recruit gang members. It was all new to me at the time and relatively new the genre. The language and brutality really made it feel mature in an 'adult' way to me though, which was exciting as a spotty little teenager. The were quite a few PC FPS games that were light years ahead of console counterparts. Everyone went ape shit for Goldeneye (which I spent a lot of time playing also) but there were other classics like SiN, Blood / Blood 2, soldier of fortune, half life, Kingpin, Deus Ex, Shadow Warrior, Redneck Rampage. So on so forth.

IDK, I played through it 2X & all I can remember is a dark dank environment, lots of swearing & Ving doin' Pulp Fiction routine. :/ It was a long time ago. I remember starting to play SiN but never finished it & I don't remember why. Blood 2 was excellent. I also loved Shogo. SoF is the one I really remember for brutality & dismemberment. I still clearly remember one time a guy runs through a doorway, I blew off his legs & he slid across the floor. It's just one of those things that's stuck in my head forever. I'd never seen bones in a game actually shown after body parts were blown off. Half-Life & Deus Ex were obviously big ones. So was Unreal. Not sure I'd need a reboot of any originals but the Black Mesa mod was pretty cool for the original HL. I never played the original Shadow Warrior but I thought the 2013 remake was really bad ass.

Something that may not have been that popular is No One Lives Forever. NOLF 2 was just so awesome. The facial animation at that time, the gadgets & the humour & the story. AMAZING game. I'd like to see a continuation of that series & I wish someone more capable than PGI would get a hold of MechWarrior & do more with it too.

KakkaHousu · Post by **KakkaHousu** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:30 am

Blood 2 was excellent.

You are probably first person I have seen saying Blood 2 is excellent. I don't know how good is it as regular FPS, but as sequel for Blood it sucks. It is nothing like first one, it changes everything. Weapons, settings, even Caleb swear and taunt lot less.

Trent · Post by **Trent** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:06 am

Just a few off the top of my head:

Hyperblade

Panzer Dragoon Saga

Robopit

Pit Ball

Magic The Gathering (the 1997 MicroProse game)

Jedi Knight

Crusader: No Remorse

Omicron: The Nomad Soul

Powerstone

Wilbur Cobb · Post by **Wilbur Cobb** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:51 am

Trent wrote:Hyperblade

Panzer Dragoon Saga

Robopit

Pit Ball

Magic The Gathering (the 1997 MicroProse game)

Jedi Knight

Crusader: No Remorse

Omicron: The Nomad Soul

Powerstone

Holy shit, Trent, I had to google what the hulk some of those games were before remembering everything and getting a huge shot of nostalgia to the brain.

Don't do that to me, man. That's been known to kill people.

'80s Time Warp · Post by **'80s Time Warp** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 4:54 pm

The big one for me:

Interstate '76

lemonrev · Post by **lemonrev** » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:53 pm

KakkaHousu i think i was slightly wrong in my thoughts, I was actually thinking of thrust twist + turn,

http://www.giantbomb.com/thrust-twist-turn/3030-4837/

Anyways many good oldies, Trents thought go back to console, Weather or not they ever import them to pc is another thing entirely :P

Freeride Forever · Post by **Freeride Forever** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 12:04 am

KakkaHousu wrote:
Blood 2 was excellent.

You are probably first person I have seen saying Blood 2 is excellent. I don't know how good is it as regular FPS, but as sequel for Blood it sucks. It is nothing like first one, it changes everything. Weapons, settings, even Caleb swear and taunt lot less.

That could be, I never played the original. Same with NOLF. I just know I liked the sequels for what they were. I wanted to go through the original NOLF but I never would because it's just too dated. It's like trying to go back to dial-up internets after having cable. Once you get used to that much superior standard it's hard to go back. Wait long enough & it's almost not even really possible. That's why I'd like remakes of the first two Fallouts. I'm sure they're great games for their time but with too many new games coming out & too many existing ones still yet to be played, there's no way I'd bother to play something that dated. Especially when it comes to a story driven title, it needs to be up to par with here & now otherwise I can't be bothered. I'll be playing something that doesn't stop being fun like Carma or Trials or my cock 'n' balls etc.

flykas · Post by **flykas** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:06 pm

KakkaHousu wrote:
Hard truck

Demo version of first Hard Truck was my first racing game alongside of Colin McRae Rally 1, so I have good memories of it, but I hope they never make reboot. Actually it was very crappy game. If you like second one more than first, then there is 18 wheels of steel, which is basically same series as HT, just different name.

I liked hard turck 2 the most. And there is a game called rig'n'roll from same developers it is like hard truck 3, but it not as good as the second one. I know 18 wheels fo steel. it's ok, but nowhere near as good as hard truck 2. I liked it becuase it had nice sim'ish physics and all kinds of fun stuff like secrets, bandits, flooded roads, etc.

LordToastALot · Post by **LordToastALot** » Sun Nov 29, 2015 5:15 pm

A couple more:

Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series

Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver (Dammit, I want the final game!)

Trent · Post by **Trent** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:31 am

Wilbur Cobb wrote:Holy shit, Trent, I had to google what the hulk some of those games were before remembering everything and getting a huge shot of nostalgia to the brain.

Don't do that to me, man. That's been known to kill people.

Heh, nostalgia OD is what this thread is all about :D

A few more:

Trickstyle

Die By The Sword

Freespace

System Shock

Little Big Adventure

MDK

Red Faction (original FPS fully dynamic destruction incarnation)

Severence

Motocross Madness

LordToastALot · Post by **LordToastALot** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:22 pm

System Shock could now actually get a sequel down the road, now Night Ride Studios own the rights. Theyve admitted they'd need the interest of a bigger publisher.

FatCat · Post by **FatCat** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:46 pm

I'm sure that if they make a success out of their system shock remake, they'll catch a lot of wind in their wake and sail straight towards a good publisher. It seems to be a relatively new studio at the moment, very unproven. It would most likely be a big gamble for a publisher to give these folks a big wad of money off the bat for a big sequel.

Trent · Post by **Trent** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:22 pm

LordToastALot wrote:System Shock could now actually get a sequel down the road, now Night Ride Studios own the rights. Theyve admitted they'd need the interest of a bigger publisher.

Not just the interest of a bigger publisher but also vastly expand their team and resources. They voiced their desire to make a sequel but said making brand new games "isn't their core business." Up until now their business has solely been hunting down and acquiring rights to games which were lost in copyright blackholes to be re-released on GOG and Steam. The System Shock remake is a big departure from their typical business and it's taken years to grow to a size capable of just that, so starting work on an actual fully fledged sequel which does the series justice is sadly many years away from being a viable option.

Fox Assassin14 · Post by **Fox Assassin14** » Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:05 pm

I would like destruction derby to come back, they were always a lot of fun

Freeride Forever · Post by **Freeride Forever** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:44 am

Trent wrote:Motocross Madness

Yep ^^^ shoulda mentioned MCM too but I figged, meh I'll just have to get around to learning how to play Reflex someday. Only reason I don't play MCM 2 anymore (played it regularly for over 10 years after release) is because 3D acceleration wouldn't work on Win 7. Actually the game wouldn't even run due to a missing DX/D3D file or sump'm that was removed by M$ in 7. I gave it the file & it ran but no 3D acceleration. Figged it was just that time, as all good things inevitably have to come to an end, so I let it go. :(

vampsinthe78 · Post by **vampsinthe78** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:30 am

Some really obscure stuff clutters up my gaming nostalgia:

Realms of the Haunting (Complete with slightly creaky FMVs of course)

Speedball 2 (An un-shit update please)

Interstate 76 (rusting gas-guzzlers and open-world missions)

Blade Runner (nice pseudo free roaming update to Westwood's epic)

Plenty more but they tend to be Amiga classics and the transition to newer systems might take away what I loved about them in the process.

Edit to confirm '80s Time Warp's eminent good taste:

The big one for me:
Interstate '76

RiOrus · Post by **RiOrus** » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:02 pm

I remember speedball 2 on the Commodore 64 ha! I don't know if this counts but speedball had a pretty decent release on iOS and actually plays really well on iPhone. Quite a fun little game. It'd be cool to have a reimagining of it though from a different perspective ala madden or something.

There are a few very memorable c64 games such as rodland, exile, rampage, carnage and the dizzy games were fun. Probably best left in the past though.

hammr25 · Post by **hammr25** » Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:05 pm

The only one I can think of is one Trent mentioned: Crusader: No Remorse

Tony Zurovec might have continued making them if EA weren't such greedy bastards.

Fireman · Post by **Fireman** » Sun Jan 03, 2016 3:13 pm

Trent wrote:
Trickstyle

That's a good one, I loved that game, bit over-the-top but the races are a lot of fun, wouldn't mind seeing a better functioning newer version of this. The actual trick part was a bit dissapointing.

Also would like to see;

Millenium Racer

Knights of the Old Republic I and II

Kill Krush 'n' Destroy

Messiah

Urban Chaos

Knights and Merchants

Gangland

Mount and Blade (this is happening, hurra!)

Psychonauts (also happening, huzza!)

Laser Arena or any new laser shooting game with those gamemodes.

CzechDeath · Post by **CzechDeath** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:27 pm

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