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Many years ago, in the 1966, a brand new luxury caddilac rolled out of the factory, and ended up in a caddilac show room, was then later sold on a ex-display car, it was ran by a wealthy family for a number of years, who recorded and wrote down every event, every service, spare part, all of its history, a good home,

after that it was then sold to another person with less than 60.000 on the clock, who did the same, all history wrote down in the black book that seemed to come with the car,

again years later a little worn the caddi made its third change of hands, to a man who wanted a cheap luxury car that wasent too beat, he taught his son to drive in it, took his great granddaughter to the mall in it, so it was a family taxi, it was a farthers freedom, was taken to concerts, car shows at times, even did a damn wedding, traveld, conqured snow, sand storms, rain storms, freezing conditions and blistering heat, and outlived its owner... wich was indeed a sad day and a day ill never forget, i wont talk about because ill just get emotinal,

after decades of driving, bumping, storms, sun, wear and tear, it sat to rust, untill it was one day taken away to clear space, rested in a junkyard for allmost a year, i saw all the decent parts and pannels dissapear slowly.. untill the remains were crushed, and taken away and are now probobly a soda can,

43 years of history, joy and tears, was turned into recycled steel,

Now am i just being a real freak? or does anybody else see cars as more? i rember the sounds and feel of things, i rember my rare trips out with great grandparents, and everyone seems to think im odd but, cars become in the family, and a family members gone,

really honistly tell me am i strange or do any of you feel emotinaly conected to your, or your parents cars, in the way you would to a partner, parent, brother, sister?, or is it.. Just a car, cause i want to know if im sick or not :P

but anyway thats the end of my epic story for today, just wanted to express how i feel, and last car i sold i actully allmost cryed, so.. ya.. I guess take this opertunity to share your fond car moments, this is not a joke this is true feeling so i ask you nicley not to mock me,

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Reads like the kind of story that you'd hear Jezza spout on Top Gear.
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Hmm... I've got a limited edition GT Beetle which is currently in the bodyshop for spraying, in the middle of extensive restoration. I've spent far more money on that car than it will be worth when its done.. but sometimes its just the character of the car and the experiences you had with it which makes that one car better. Sure, I could just go and buy another GT Beetle in decent shape for less money than I've spent on this one. But it wouldn't be the same car. And I couldn't let it end up on the scrap heap! So yeah, its not just you.
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Ah good to see somebody understands, ive doen the same thing, spend more than a car is worth times before,

its kinda like a life, some of them have longer lifes than others, some are hard workers, all that,

Well thats how i think i love seeing old cars roaming around, and i dont feel peopel really apreciate what they buy. most people in the city buy a new car, run it, trash it, get another, not only is this a cold un emotinal state its also wastefull, and un-economical, people say they want to save the environment yet now were promoting Throwing away cars? my mom has a new car from work every 3-4 years, so will an old caddi really produse more polution over 43 years? than it would take to produce a new car every 3 years, meaning during its life 14 new cars would have had to be made, taking energy and resorses.

Sorry for my long posts now but i kinda take this personally.. i allways argue about cars, and about how audi is runing the world with its diesel pushing,
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I agree 100 percent.

It's just, sadly I cannot feel anything when it comes to my family's cars, due to the fact they all drive soulless cookie cutter modern cars.

For example, check this link out:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/japanesenostalgiccar/page2

Look at all that awesome classic Japanese tin going to waste. Makes me really depressed. And considering these pictures were taken in January and September of '09, they're all gone. :sad:
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every car tell's it's own tale :/
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I feel sort of the same way about the truck I learned to drive on, and my 1st car..

I still check up on the truck ('84 F150 "explorer"), its a farm truck now but at least it's being taken care of and kept going.

My 1st car ('86 Cadillac Brougham) is in a barn now, it runs but it's rotting so bad one side of the gastank let loose, and it wasn't the strap. It let loose from the frame.

Care more about the truck than the car, I was born in 83, and the truck was bought new in 84 by my grandfather so it's been in my entire life pretty much.

It's just hard to see something as just a vehicle when it's been a staple in your life, or has little quirks that only you know about. On the other side of the coin I've driven a 08 Corolla, a 06 Matrix, and a 99 Cavalier this week and I could not care less about any of them. Something about solid metal I guess.

I can't see kids growing up and telling tales about the great 03 Neon they had the same way people go on about the 50's to 80's cars.
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I think that depends on how iconic the car is though. I bet that people will be talking about some of the more unique modern shapes in 20 years time. Especially if it was a first car for them.
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Modern cars wont be around in 20 years time,

I dont hate cars just because there modern, infact i want a dodge charger, or dodge ram, if i had the cash for a new car, but these cars are not solid lumps nomore and will degrade and eventuly be dissguarded as repairs become too expencive.

Open the hood of a 1986 dodge and you see an engine, Open the hood of a 2010 honda civic, and you see osme weird plastic stuff.

I hate the design of most modern cars tho, and its not jsut that, there smaller eco engines (wich people still tend to floor and use as much as us v8 cruisers) these just dont last as long, a good ol v8 lum will just run, a 2 or so liter small 4 cylinder engine will expire much faster.. why this is i dont know. but i know it happens. Modern cars are built to expire, how else will they sell More new cars? anyway we were the last cool generation before the world decended into hell, with there designer cloths, anerexia, shitty music and coffee shops,

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Heh. Some of us from the 60s are still kicking ass. :wink:
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Agreed with Maxine's post. Imagine 30 years down the line, you happen to come across a 2010 BMW M5 in a barn. No way is that thing going to ever start, without a PhD in electronic engineering.

Modern cars are just white goods, like a fridge or a washing machine. Once something breaks, throw it away and buy another one. Not terrible 'green' me thinks. :crazy:

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Funny about the electricity engineering... Did you ever know about a little machine that you plug somewhere under the hood which will tell you exactly by a code what's not working? Then you just change the not working part and it's over. Not because it's new and electronic that it isn't fixable. Back then, I'm pretty sure that they thought that a car from the '50 would be here today.

Metal rust. Not plastic. Old engines can get physically damaged. New engines don't have much of that problem due to electronic control. Yes, they do wear out with time, but what do not wear out with time? The thing is, new cars are as fixable as old ones. The problem is that our minds/ways have changed. Back in the '50 and (previously) you kept thing as long as they were fixable. Nowadays, whatever break, we just throw away and buy something new. If you're honest, you'll agree that we don't only do that to cars, but to televisions, fridges, clothes, furnitures, etc...

The message our society send today is that things HAVE to be easy. It's easier to throw away a not working car than have it checked. It's easier to throw away a sofa than have it repaired. They even make it so that reparing a Television cost MORE than buying one. Why? I mean, it's only one part not working and if that part was worth that much, wouldn't the TV cost more?

Our society is also based on OVER-consumption. Companies do ANYTHING to make you throw out your old things to get new ones. Fashion is one of those way. One day your shirt is "in" and the next day it's "out" and if you go around wearing it, you might get some amused stares and some people might think you're actually stupid. But heck! Your shirt is still wearable. Another example I can think of is in recent video games. Before, when there were addons, you could download them for free. And more than often, addons weren't needed as the games were complete. Now, today, you buy a game like Fallout3 then to get all of the possibilities from the game you gotta buy 3-4 addons which are almost the same price as the basic game. And when the game get a little old, you see that you got conned as they get out the "Fallout3 compilation"... Another one is the Wii. People like it. I do too. But I still have my old NES and sometime, I go and start a game of Duck Hunt. Or paperboy. Or whatever game I still have. Same with my SEGA GENESIS. But so they can make more money and kinda "force" you to stop playing with ur old NES, they put all those games for sale on theirs Nintendo channel. You can get ALMOST every games from the NES, SNES, N64, SEGA GENESIS, so on. But you have to pay for them. That's some kind of catch. I mean, if my old NES is still working, why should I go buy Megaman2 on Wii? But with advertising they make it as if you REALLY had to do it.

And I'm pretty sure u guys can gimme a lotsa other example. To make it simple, you think that new cars won't stand the test of time, because the companies, with theirs advertising, (being true, false, or some "insides" they give to discredit theirs products over time so they can start selling theirs new products), make you think they won't.
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Interesting perspective Soup, well I do dislike modern cars with everything electronic, but I guess you are right that its possible to get the fault code to pinpoint the problem. But if you do find that M3 in a barn in 30 years, will all that still work? I'm guessing the wiring will be so dicky that it won't be accurate anymore. But, who knows, you might be lucky.. I'd still dig it out and have a crack.
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Well, if the diagnosis machine you use didn't pass time in a barn, then you should be ok. Heck! If my old NES passed 3-4 years in the highly humid basement of my folks' place and still work, I guess that that M3 would work. Perhaps would need one or two parts to be replaced, but I'm pretty sure with work it would be possible to put it back on the road. The only problem I'd see is if we're able to get "free" of gas and that nobody sell some anymore.
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^ That all being said, repairing modern cars is a nightmare compared to something say 30 years ago. Sure I believe modern BMW's done even have an oil dipstick, you have to read it from the dashboard (via a sensor)!

I always said that the mid-90's was the point were cars weren't too electronics complex. After that, cars really started to become Pentium processors on wheels! :lol:
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Wow this came back, i never looked at it that way too, i guess solid cars will work but i looked at new hondas in a workshop, painted badly, thin metal. the quality of past years have gone less quality = less lifespan
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Hondas... Well... A brand that I think is WAY overrated... Heck! Right now, for less, you can have a Hyundai for almost half the price and if you noticed Hyundai, in the last 5 years have made cars that can rival Nissan AND Toyota. And, well, Ford's getting back in the race, though, it ain't so sure about GM (heard they were returning to theirs old ways.) and as for Chrysler, well, I'll wait and see, there's lot of talk about Fiat helping them getting back on theirs feet, but... Sometimes, it's all big talk and nothing...

I'd like to see Renault, Peugeot and Citroen get in the North american market, but the last time they tried, they utterly failed, theirs cars weren't ready for North American climate, mostly the climate of Canada. Though sometimes, a failure, can be a good way to learn a thing or two... Volks are ok, but WAY overpriced for the quality. Mazda? Well, I never been fond of them... Except for theirs RX7 and 1st Gen. Miata...
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Opel all the way baby! You guys call em vauxhall i think. But theyre all the same plastic computerboxes on wheels nowadays. Not to mention they look dull and the same?

I got me a restored 1968 opel rekord, bargain, slow, white and classy, first and best car i'll ever have and i'll never sell it. I like riding bikes more but this car is my treasure. I did numerous repairs that are almost over the original purchase price, i'm already saving extra to restore her into mint condition, and soon she gets a brand new engine.
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That's great, its good to put in the effort to keep an old car going. Pics?
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Looking nice! I'm trying to work out what Vauxhall called this in the UK..
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Quite cool. The rear's side design reminds me of the one of the '69 Charger, tho shorter.
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They didn't make a vauxhall of the rekord C even though it was an ultra-popular car over here on the 'mainland'. Maybe cause you guys had the ford granada as the biggest seller? Not sure. The closest to it is a vauxhall victor, and a gm ranger.

The later body rekords (E) were called vauxhall carlton there and i think it was a holden commodore in australia? A V8 version.



It's all GM so the entire opel line had a big american design influence. The opel GT mimicked the coke bottle design of the corvette. My car looks pretty tiny and european when you see it in real life, not very american either. But it's still as long as a station wagon, 4,9 meters and i can barely fit it in a parking spot here.
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They don't make em like they used to! :grin:

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Ah, that would make sense then. Yeah I saw that the later models look like a Carlton.

Nice Ghia! I remember it from before..
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Dude, that's crazy !! I don't really like the Ghia, but that one is sweet :thumbsup:
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Reno has the coolest car on side, i wana make a rat rod, or bike, but never know how to start,

my truck is currently striped of plastic thats a start, right?..
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Coolest car, it depends on the point of view. I hate ratrods. It's taking cars then and just let 'em rust a little bit. In my view, ain't better than the kid that put the tuners part on a rusted out Civic that smoke blue.
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Rats are cool, there artistic, ratrods are a statment of what you like, see i do things to my car because i like the things i do, i dont just buy a large spoiler because an evo has one,

ratrods = artistic individual cars,

ricers = cheap cars that people look fast,

however rats can be done badly, and ricers can be done well, im not really against any kind of culture... apart from bmw owners.. superiority complex on wheels,

me persoanlly i have never made a rat rod but i make the thing i drive look as trashed as possible, trim looks like its hanging loose, dull paint, dents, i bump park a lot, i remove bits alltogeather, why? because to me things that look trashed are cool, but i wouldent do it if i had a decent car to start off with,

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Ratrods are awesome, I love them !!

I think they have plenty of attitude and kinda make me remember the wastelands and Mad Max :smile:
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im not really against any kind of culture... apart from bmw owners.. superiority complex on wheels,
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i agree with maxine's post, a car means much more! its about the experiences that you've had, the good times, the bad times and the engine sounds and the cars faults, they store memories. :'(

such as my first training car for the warton banger racing track, it was a 1983 ford granada and i raced it daily on my friends open land, until one bad day the engine died. it made me upset, as all the memories of starting racing were still there, it made me upset to see the car off into the scrapyard. :sad:
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