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doesn't seem to work properly lol, trying to fix that

Edit : got it to work more or less properly but now still trying to see how i can erase this unnecessary post
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Well, welcome to the art area then.

I cant really judge on the car, I mean.. I really cant, I disslike ferraris, I dont like the way supercars look, I dont like the way ferraris drive. I like my spine to be comfertable. anyway.. before I go into a rant..

I am going to say your drawing is very good, everythings nice and stright, well designed, and looks well done. The side of max's head I like too, I like anybody who can draw anatomy, I sure as hell cant :3

So welcome to the arty area, Drawing dont take too much time, specially if ya just skech out some ideas (Unless you.. dont like doing that kinda quick stuff)

Hope ya have fun here then, I cant tell if anybody would like to model or not but I guess we gota wait and see what the pro modders say :3

BTW Sex material is usually frowned upon, All I spoke about was sunbathers once and people had a negative reaction.. oh well, I just disslike throwing the word sex into it, makes it sound worse :3 so ya. just sayin.
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yeah thanks, really appreciate your feedback, glad to see at least the link is working... concerning the sex material, the way i see it, it has to remain subtle, like only at most erotism (like most european games, ex GTA IV episodes, Far Cry 3, Singles, Heavy Rain, etc... ), and prevent anything with explicite pornographic images ( a bit here like Saints Row).

I mean i know it's ok to show people blowing up, human beings being torn to shreds (espacially while watching TV at supper) etc.. but showing human body, it's the devil's evil mind at work.. lol, a real pure WTF moment.. mostly conservative, pro military americanism/campaign i guess

Seriously, a little nudity can't be as trash as running over nuns, espacially for a adult game
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Hello again,

I hope ya dont mind I screwed around with the pic a little, Ok so I drew over it, to highlight the lines more, some bits are blured tho and I kinda guessed.. so Im sorry if I got anything wrong, And I hope ya dont mind me putting my hands all over it :P I also then continued to screw it up by adding my parts onto it :3 there ya go.


And I did once sugest some beach peds to be still realistic, But sometimes like this.


And comments receved were along the lines of:

'I dont think nudity fits in carmageddon'

'I dont feel nudity fits'

Hell. one guy said Nudity is not needed, and then talks about killing grannies in wheelchairs.. Yes.. boobs are officially more offencive than dissembowling dissabled old people.

Ok End of rant.
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sure no problem, really enjoy your take on the wheels (here i simply transposed the ones from the new eagle render), and the 250 gt breadvan approach on the second picture( really superb, and frankly i hesitated a bit wth that possibility lol). kinda prefer your second interpretation

Regarding the impaling blade, i envisionned it to be clean sharp, easy to get off (in the eventually of visuable upgrades actually) and here, still prefer the source material.

nice twist too to the exhausts :), here i have no real preferences

Finally i would keep the rear diffuser touch, to make it more in harmony with the rest and for better "stability" at high speeds lol..

nice sun bathing model ^^, would totally fit the carma beaches; who ever says otherwise is kinda of missing the point of the beach and the sun
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Still trying to fix my image problem.. anybody know how to get images from dropbox to show up directly on the site? having links is ok, but kinda sucks lol, i know

another question, Maxine, what software did you use to modify the eagle? Your image is clear and visible as it should be

Edit : got the image display figured out but now seems some images would show up sideways and even some upside down.. guess i'll need new pics..
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Mad_Maxine wrote:
And I did once sugest some beach peds to be still realistic, But sometimes like this.

And comments receved were along the lines of:

'I dont think nudity fits in carmageddon'

'I dont feel nudity fits'


Hell. one guy said Nudity is not needed, and then talks about killing grannies in wheelchairs.. Yes.. boobs are officially more offencive than dissembowling dissabled old people.

Ok End of rant.

Maxine I don't think that people find boobs more offensive than anything else =D... the way I see it, it is more about, sexy nude chick getting gibbed by car, kinda goes against, what would most of us do to theese chicks =D

So boobs for example, nice, soft, cuddely miracles, thank universe for boobs, are the last thing I would want to see covered in gore... or direct any destruction their way...

killing whole, suit up people, makes their features less ovious and more abstract... yes thats right clothing can make body more abstract and since we are used to see most of the time people with their clothing on, unfortunately, it is not so bad to kill(in game) something that we pirmarely don't see as representation of individual for mating... Or from psychological standpoint for most people is harder to look at naked dead body than deadbody in clothes.

Goes both ways I guess... + large part of western culture is touchy feely about sex(to that related nudity) and death and if one fuses those together in mix of sexual provocation and violant mass murder...it can be bit too overwhelming for some... like taking bacon and cover it with chocolate... separetly - awesome, but together, kinda bad choice...

so yea Boobs aren't offensive, individual psyche is making things offensive relative to it's cultural background.

same goes for pussies and dicks offcourse =D.

So this is why I personaly would not want to run over naked people in carmageddon =)
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There you go :) when viewing your image in dropbox, right click on it and select 'copy link address' and then paste it into the 'insert/edit image 'dialogue found at the top when you make a reply :)

If you happen to have a scanner you should scan your images, otherwise use Photoshop or GIMP and adjust the contrast a little bit, it's hard to see what's happening at the moment ;)
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Some interesting concepts, a few too many 'supercar inspirations' I feel. For example Electric Blue is based on the Lister Storm, which while having a huge powerhouse of an engine isn't really your typical supercar, at least it doesn't look like it :)
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First off I gota say it, If you dont like Attractive female peds getting killed, then well, Dosent that kinda go against the whole equal thing? Usually from youtube, and people I know the people who say 'Dont kill the hot chick' when you are in a game turn out to be the same people who think lesbians are cool, but hate gays, in some kinda weird hipocritical way.

If people are uncomfertable killing attractive girls, then I guess we better remove them? And animals, and old peds because you know The granny is a part of carmageddon, but sometimes I feel bad for the older folk.

What im saying is peds are peds, they can be, busty girlsi n bikinis, old ladies, fat guys, skinny nerdy types, None of them exist anyway, and are there for our game, I just like it if there all fitting, BTW There will be no topless-ness, as peds only seem to walk around, so I guess that means theres no sunbather animation, and therefore no sunbathers.

I just wanted to say that because the people who are like 'Dont hurt the girls' Make it seem like women are some weaker thing that cant be involved in any of the cool games cause its too dangerous for them.. yeah.

End of rant,

Onto you Blood Eagle,

I got to say I like the limos, I mean The citoren DS (the real one no the new one that happens to share the same name but none of the fetures) is probly my favorite french car, and you know I never did think of stretching it, for some reson the front makes it look like a shark, I dunno thats just what I see, only thing id remove is the rear wing heh.. too much. I also like the super pool limo, luxury bar tv limo thing :P I mean I love the idea of limos with lots of crap to fly around like the water spilling out, and tvs flying around wine bottles smashing on things, Itd just be total chaos, wich is cool.

Um, im assuming the limos would only have a driver? and the backs of both be empty during races?

Cow car is cool too, its kinda one of the.. slightly more normal looking, but still slightly unusual veichles (I know what I mean... kidna like towmister, and grim not TOO out there) so yeah I like that too, has a nice old styled but futurish look. Would it actully be holding a cow during racing?

And the rest? Im not really the supercar one, yall know how I feel about supercars. I guess theres nothing to say there.

Sorry for ranting in your topic But I cant resist sometimes,

Keep up the art, if ya enjoying it that is.
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CzechDeath wrote:

So boobs for example, nice, soft, cuddely miracles, thank universe for boobs,


..... yeah!!

Maxine does have a solid point though.. hypocritical bastards!

Mhmm boobs..
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Mad_Maxine wrote:First off I gota say it, If you dont like Attractive female peds getting killed, then well, Dosent that kinda go against the whole equal thing? Usually from youtube, and people I know the people who say 'Dont kill the hot chick' when you are in a game turn out to be the same people who think lesbians are cool, but hate gays, in some kinda weird hipocritical way.

If people are uncomfertable killing attractive girls, then I guess we better remove them? And animals, and old peds because you know The granny is a part of carmageddon, but sometimes I feel bad for the older folk.


What im saying is peds are peds, they can be, busty girlsi n bikinis, old ladies, fat guys, skinny nerdy types, None of them exist anyway, and are there for our game, I just like it if there all fitting, BTW There will be no topless-ness, as peds only seem to walk around, so I guess that means theres no sunbather animation, and therefore no sunbathers.


I just wanted to say that because the people who are like 'Dont hurt the girls' Make it seem like women are some weaker thing that cant be involved in any of the cool games cause its too dangerous for them.. yeah.


End of rant,


OH maxine maxine ... what do I say to you ... =/ I see lot of supressed womanly anger there =D and in fact very unesecery.

why would personal preference go against equality of anyone as long as im not trying to enforce it on anyone? You have no Idea how much against objectification of women I am, how I fucking hate all commercials on web and billboards attacking my balls by constantly trowning sexually suggestive chicks in to my face... I am very much for equality Im the one who cooks in my house for fucks sake =D also wether Im feminist or shovinist prick was never point of anything I wrote before...

SO as heterosexual male I just would rather not kill naked chicks in CR... how is that a problem? are you saying my opinion is wrong? are you saying that oranges don't taste to me as thay taste to me?

Also how could anyone remove what is not in that game...?

Well yea peds are peds for you nobody is taking that from you so what's the problem?=D

And this has nothing to do with not hurting girls... JEEZEZ how did you manage to get it all twisted like that? that is not what I meant at all...

it is about prefering to not gore sexually atractive subject! If I was chick I would not wanna run over dudes with boners... understand?

and how the fuck did you manage to smash the gays and lessbians in to that? It's as if I say "bananas" and you say "what? a fruit salad? fuck you all with your stupid pineaples!"

Good god =O

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I dident say 'Hey we should have tons of naked people to kill' I just said pedestrians should be all types, ugly sexy, lots of cloths, not much cloths, depending on the situations.

I would be totally against just having random naked people in the streets of shock factor, but placing people in fitting locations such as toplessness on a beach dosent seem like it would be the end of the world. Its not about whos wrong or anything its just, I dont see a problem... by the way they allready added bikinis, you better avoid those beaches man..

So ok mabye I do go over the top. .and yes I do get pissed off that I dont get taken seriusly when I talk about how I want to be a truck driver.. But that dosent really have anything to do with this..

Im just gona be honist here, and ill try and say it nicley.

Carmageddon needs sexy peds, ugly peds, animals, old people, and everything, if we start getting picky on what we have because someone might not like running down cows, or someone might not like killing girls in bikinis, or some girl might not wana kill the sexy trunks man, the game will probly devolve back to Generic human models, Kinda like motorstorm Woo two ped types!

So yeah, Im NOT trying to convince everyone we need naked pedestrians, Im just saying that they will all be diffrent, some will be less dressed, but I am against full nudity, as that would not fit, same as children, the mentally dissabled, etc.

Hope ya see what I ment.
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Mad_Maxine wrote:I dident say 'Hey we should have tons of naked people to kill' I just said pedestrians should be all types, ugly sexy, lots of cloths, not much cloths, depending on the situations.

I would be totally against just having random naked people in the streets of shock factor, but placing people in fitting locations such as toplessness on a beach dosent seem like it would be the end of the world. Its not about whos wrong or anything its just, I dont see a problem... by the way they allready added bikinis, you better avoid those beaches man..


So ok mabye I do go over the top. .and yes I do get pissed off that I dont get taken seriusly when I talk about how I want to be a truck driver.. But that dosent really have anything to do with this..

Im just gona be honist here, and ill try and say it nicley.


Carmageddon needs sexy peds, ugly peds, animals, old people, and everything, if we start getting picky on what we have because someone might not like running down cows, or someone might not like killing girls in bikinis, or some girl might not wana kill the sexy trunks man, the game will probly devolve back to Generic human models, Kinda like motorstorm Woo two ped types!


So yeah, Im NOT trying to convince everyone we need naked pedestrians, Im just saying that they will all be diffrent, some will be less dressed, but I am against full nudity, as that would not fit, same as children, the mentally dissabled, etc.


Hope ya see what I ment.

Oh yea I got you now =D

YUP I have seen bikini peds =D the fat laidies have so funny anims =)

If hot fempeds I'm gonna ... Im gonna splat them ... gently =D HAHAH! Just for me to bare it...

oh and Im nudist so that one goes for bathing suit fanatics =D that is totally off topic tho- =D

Wow you wanna be truck driver? I have seen some strong woman characters in one documentary =) I also wanted to be a truck driver, the seeming freedom, strong engine, always seeing new places... =) but than I started to draw trucks =D and I understood that truck driving isn't path for me.

PS: Whoever does not take you seriously on that, or anything else, because of gender or any other reason... is stupid ignorant idiot... and that dear Maxine, that is only his/her problem... so don't let it touch you =D
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Heh, well glad that got patched up, Not going to type too much, lets let this guy get back to his thred, but yeah, If I loose my job now, I would start driving,

Hey Blood eagle, Sorry for the topic disruption, May I try to do a design based on your citroen limo?
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Bloodstability : Thanks a lot for the info, really helped to do a "better" edit on my pics even if right now i'm just modifying the contrast and the luminosity.

Thanks too for the feedback on the concepts, i know i could give more feedback myself here and there, that's for sure lol..

Concerning the supercar theme, well i really think it's fun to draw them, always so much possibilities ^^

Finally, concerning Electric Blue, i know the first one was based on a Lister Storm but today, looking back at them, they weren't so great after all, at least that's what i think. Secondly, i felt that having Lister Storms in C1 also really gave the game this edge on other games back then : not only did it (c1) contain a famous, contemporary and 'not seen in other games' racecar, but it was also modified to fit the carma universe. So here, trying to keep this idea up to date, that's why i directly went for the P1 : really the obvious choice (others could have been the Arash/Farboud cars, the Morgans, the Lotus cars and maybe the Astons and the Jags). The P1 is really awesome, really next gen and works with hybrid technology which, i find, just makes it perfect for Electric Blue :P. (but then again, always possible to update/upgrade an older vehicle with future tech).

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=> For the DS,

- sure no problem, once it out there, have fun, make it "live"; that's a bit the point of Art..

Regarding the passengers in the DS, i just thought the driver - who i've imagined as a real "professionnal" limo driver, very polite and sympathetic when sober but totally gone seriously psycho once drunk, always with his bottle of wine - took the car from his job and went berserk with it (considering the car, do as you want, add partying youngers in the back or rich celebs lol, everything here could go actually)

- concerning the rear wing, i know it's silly, but on the moment it seemed to me that it would add to this carma goofiness some vehicules have. And it's cool you see a shark face, wasn't really intended but would add to the "scary" image.

=> concerning le luxurious cab, i've drawn the vehicle with 3 persons, the driver and 2 whores (which would always be topless/naked playing in the jacuzzi and watching TV for exemple and again considering who the driver is, it would make sense..)

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Synetearis & CzechDeath (really love all your art and carma comics mini episodes; much prefer your art style and approach on the matter than the official comic stuff back in the day...), hurray for a little nudity in carma and considering the fuss it makes, it seems really, really necessary to be implemented (let's not forget c1 generated shock for its violence...). That, apart from being totally awesome, would also help the marketing and also help it being banned, which would also help the marketing, espacially if the game is really good and fun at its core (like c1 was)

Eventually, YOU ARE NOT OBLIGED TO RUN OVER EVERY damn PED in front of you; you can choose who you run over !!! just make a detour if you want a particular type of ped to live (for exemple hot, cute, polygonized topless female peds)
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thanks a lot, that helped ^^

got it hopefully everything is going go correctly, before end of weekend... now i see better why before it didn't really work appropriatly.. Fixing it and editing

Edit : like said in the second edit of my first post, it seems that with my current account i can only "share a link". To "go public", since my account was created in 2014, i'd now need to upgrade to a paying account... Well again, at least the links work ok
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Please fix the links, I want to see the trucks :c
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Oh, they work now!

So, Rig O'Mortis is basically Optimus Prime? The drawing looks nice but it's not really anything more than it was in Carma, you know. Any truck could be named RigOMortis and put in Carmageddon. It's missing the original part, imo.
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lol, I guess you're right; i've never thought about it actually nor have i made that connection with Optimus Prime... i have to admit, you've got me thinking a little there and finally, after doing some quick research, i've come to the conclusion that Optimus Prime, Rig O'Mortis/Semi mk II, and even Darkside (from the Twisted Metal franchise) all share the same mother idea of aiming to represent the typical "powerful" american big rig character.

I've looked up Optimus Prime after your post and indeed, the concept does look a little like the Transformers' Optimus from the movies (even though the original Optimus was supposed to be a 'flat-nose' truck..). Nonetheless, in some regards, i personnaly feel they've 'pussied' it out a bit, too much bling and not enough toughness : kinda wierd to explain but the way i see it, a big rig is not really meant to look like a garage queen. It rather needs this bulky, strong and powerful essence to look kinda cool.

Regarding the previous designs of Mother Trucker's vehicle, they don't seem to have any "special feature" on them other than the fact of being big black, long nose, with sleeper cab and dual side exhausts 10 wheeler rigs. I felt mainly upset actually by the semi mk II, the first time i encountered it in carma 2 ( hoped it to be the baddess and coolest truck ever seen in a game but in the end, it seemed kinda bland) So, i made my design trying to focus more on Rig O'Mortis and went on from there..

Finally, as you can see, you've got me pondering quite a bit on the character : i indeed feel he is amongst those strong flagship characters (with max, die anna, screwie, towmeister..) of the series. Therefor i've totally remade the concept (see updated previous related post) and tried to give it more carma soul lol.. This time around, having what you've said in mind, i tried to make it more actual and more special while still making references to the older carma models. So, in a way, thanks for the critic :)
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here are some contenders.. some new, some reimagined.

Vehicle : The Cattle

Driver : Big "Mac"

Description : The man is big and his friends call him "Mac". Cow lover, he takes it a bit to literally.

A test attempt to make a pickup look more like a cow. A specific feature would be the width of the front wheels being twice the size of the rear (double) wheels separately



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/eq04zxx6yvkmj3u/The%20Cattle.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/myfg5o8rqmvbf1t/IMAG0040.jpg

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Vehicle : Safari

Driver : The Chic or The Chèque (play on words with Sheikh)

Description : A Porsche Cayenne/ Macan based 4x4 modified at its most to be very efficient in the carmageddon "safari".

With "Chic", could be a sarcastic play on words regarding the "good taste" on some of the modifications made on expensive cars/vehicles by a few rich middle eastern owners. With "Chèque" name (which means check but isn't pronouced exactly the same), could refer to the immense fortune.

Here the vehicle is more envisionned as a replacement to the Bronco with OJ in the first Carma since nowadays most people forgot the famous chase and won't get the joke while the image of the rich middle eastern still is quite strong without being insulting nor offensive



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/grn34z9gril07y2/Safari.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/b8hslit5buhkvmg/IMAG0041.jpg

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Vehicle : Froggynou

Driver : Renaud le poivrot (here, it's a play on words with Renault even though the car is based here on the Citroën DS, and could also refer to Renaud the french signer who has a bit a reputation of liking the booze. To make it work in English, the way i envisionned it, you would have to find a name riming/ryhming with drunk for example)

Description : A Citroën DS inspired limo car made fit for carma with aerodynamics a bit inspired by the 1960s textures/forms. Ultra luxurious and why not a bit yacht like, with wood work on body on the sides and a little bit beneath the front lights (subtle touch)



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ue4al1rrtbclij6/Froggynou.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/47csra3p5adks0m/IMAG0048.jpg
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Vehicle : Big Boot

Drivers: Honey & Bunny

Description : honey being main driver. Would be cool to add - if possible - the passager animation like standing in car and doing war cries and sending her hawk crap on other opponents for bunny or playing with lasso and shooting guns for honey (could stand like the animated parts of the car like with new eagle or driver animation).

Pun here would be on the "subtleness" of the characters : cowboy honey would have big boobs which you guess the outline and huge butt in ultra tight shorts (and through cameltoe, you actually see some of her features). Indian bunny on the other hand would be breast naked which allows full reveal of upper body but with little piece of cloth making you guess the bottom part but not disclosing it.

Honey and Bunny would be like two playmates with ultra sexuality features gone totally psycho. They use their sexual assets and the cowboys and indians theme to better distract their adversaries and peds. Here the inspiration was a bit from the Cannonball Run movie and the 2 female drivers of the lambo countach lp 400 s

The car is inspired from Mercedes 680S Torpedo Roadster (although spare wheels would be covered to "melt" better in overall design of the car, modern Ferrari spiders and Shelby Cobra/hotrods. Big rear of the car to make the reference to the main driver and the name of the car. Such a charactor would seem like a MUST ADD considering again the lack of sexual elements in the game.. Could balance the adult and fun themes a bit more



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/iybonzndd9lhzih/Big%20Boot.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/sc3c5mti9f5skoc/IMAG0050.jpg

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Vehicle : EV 2 (as in electron-volts) or Electric Blue 2

Driver : Stella Stunna (hadn't seen carma new concept: made her look more like a little skinny rich psycho lady)

Description : the way I see it, NUMBER ONE psycho on the psycho list (considering the number of dead she generates at each event).

Car is an evolution from original Electric Blue. Tried to keep it English supercar and so directly went for the Mclaren P1 inspiration. End result would be a long tail Mclaren P1 with Porsche GT1 Lemans 1998 winner touches. Again rear wheel hiden behind body like original Electric Blue and I added a "Tesla Ball" which would explain how she does all the ped killing. Car itself not very strong but extremly fast, expensive and best ped killing machine in the game.



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/svxplumwjm0kfg4/EV2.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/hzq1bfyyfjufoqm/IMAG0051.jpg

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Vehicle : Fearari La666 XXX evo

Driver : Madam Scarlett (seen here as a joyful "star like" persona amongst psychos driver)

Description: tried to use the LaFerrari inspiration and tried to put Lemans proto elements in it but endend with something that i could hardly understand in a conceptual point of view but which actually seemed to hold together. Here a lot of moving air brakes/ailerons/wings (a bit like new Eagle and new LaFerrari, Porsche 918, Mclaren P1, Pagani Huayra, Koenigsegg ONE 1,..). Those parts don't show very well and still quite difficult to really understand the car.. might do more sketches of it. trapdoor is on the roof, some air vents become wings etc... Extremly fast, faster than electric blue, very expensive, probably quickest car around a track but extremely fragile



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ka2mx177fgio6sc/Fearari%20La666%20XXX%20evo.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/12hx0hmwkmjyars/IMAG0075.jpg

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Vehicle : Spectre (play on words with Rolls Royce Phantom/ Ghost)

Driver : Crazy Ugly Joey alias Roadkill

Description : Driver survived heavy car crash; he is totally disfigured, lost an arm (for example) is severly burnt. He's mob boss. chose to keep his present physical condition as such and not go through surgery as a reminder of his past and to help him fuel his rage. Extremely Angy and furious but at the same time, very sad and alone. Here inclusion of the character is to give "awareness" of real-life road accident carnages

Car was meant to be modified Phantom/Ghost but endend up locking something totally else. no real care for safety issues since driver hasn't got anything else to lose.. This alow inclusing of jacuzzi in the back, huge floppy screen - like those that we are starting to see on the market - which can roll back in the "floor" (when racing for example), spinner rims and inverted seats (better ability to watch tv and jump in jacuzzi). Skull of person responsable for accident which gave him his new face in the center of radiator grill. Two other ennemies skull serve as support for mirors.

Could be cool, again if possible, to have the driver jump in the back of the car, in his jacuzzi, while player does nothing for a certain amount of time. Roadkill would come with his two monokini bitches (normal considering where he comes from) who could play in jacuzzi or what tv while he drives



Dropbox new link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/kwqeyxk2ijtdi0g/Spectre.jpg

Dropbox old link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/mo1aw6060f3zw60/IMAG0077.jpg
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"new" reimagined opponents ( considering the success of the 'supercars' i've upped a few tiers this time)

Vehicle : Abba Cab

Driver : Magnum Magnumsson (looking at , his 'northen european' type of name, the european styled truck he drives, his helmet and the Sotchi 2014 winter olympics where the Netherlands were predominant in the category, i've made Magnum a speed skater gone rogue)

description : Magnum has now a huge helmet which really give him a "douche" and "funnier" face. Since he's a juiced up speed skater, made him have huge muscular thighs (which could also balance out with the big helmet). Not quite sure though on the outfit itself : a mix of body armor and spandex. colors would match those of the truck. His credo would be "power & speed"

Truck made to be robust, powerfull and fast. gave him three tyred rear wheels to be more "expressive", "impressive" and unique. took out the front motor grill (in driver's mind, would help air go directly into engine compartment and help sustain longer top speed delaying overheating). Lack of front motor grill would mainly ensure to visualize the super new physics system at work :P



Dropbox link : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebramkcruq3vf81/Abba%20Cab.jpg

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Vehicle : Rig O'Mortis X

Driver : Mother Trucker (didn't quite figure out how to draw her actually :P, i'd probably take inspiration from her first representation (splat pack) and add her jeans, boots and a cane, (and maybe a snake as a pet = symbol of death in some cultures) the old american country trucker lady (will eventually add a drawing))

description : Meanner than Rig O'Mortis I, badder than Semi MK II, fiercer than Darkside, the all american Alpha highway truck with all the bling you need (truck is a mix of the Peterbilt 300(359,379,389) series and the Kenworth W900 series)

Edit : Reimagined the concept

- always thought that this character was supposed to fill the huge all spectacular american truck cliché and since there was quite a big design change from carma 1 to carma 2, that's the idea that mainly drove me while drawing the first concept. Nonetheless, as it was pointed out to me, it kinda lacked the carma feel (even though the way i envisionned it, you had to give it color : the chrome parts would be rusted and filthy, the body paint would be matte black, and the rims maybe shiny "gun metal black " (if such a color exists..))

- new concept is based on more modern aerodynamical big rigs. Main features would be :

...=> the absence of front lights (looks more menacing (death is dark and absence of eyes and light in dead skull) and considerating the new tech, even today, it wouldn't be essential to drive in the dark)

...=> nudge bars/bull bars inspired to represent a rib cage ( with seven razor sharp (for example) bars on each side representating the seven fixed ribs..)

...=> the side exhausts shredded on the top to make it look more harsh and violent (would be dripping blood from holes and on top, and exhausts would also eventually be spitting blood each time a ped gets "chewed" up/run over/blown up)

...=> the very low profile of the truck (like Rig O'Mortis I : same 'glued to the road' sensation when seen afar)

...=> rims would have be fitted with "inverted dish covers" (or however they are properly called) (design frequently used within the 1970s/1980s racecars : see for better visual example the Porsches 935 and some 956 and 962) and at the center would be a skull which would hold the dish to the rim but would have a mechanism like the new Rolls Royces (where the logo in center of the wheels doesn't move/stays fix). The nasal orifice of the skull could served as the central nut.

...=> Again it would share the same radiator grill/ engine grill as Rig O'Mortis I and, like said, the same type of side exhausts,

...=> It would have its chrome parts rusted for example, dark matte black paint for the body, shiny black for the rim and matte back for the 'dish' (to balance out the black nuances) and skull in the center would be same color as radiator grill..

- i've done a quick sketch of Mother Trucker. Put her jeans, boots, a cane, a gave her a snake. Also made her jeans buttoned up very high on her waist (like a some older people but here it's a bit more exaggerated to add to the carma caricature)



Dropbox link to first "classic" concept : https://www.dropbox.com/s/npxsgu5a0rkizht/Rig%27O%20Mortis.jpg



Dropbox link to second more modern & "carma like" concept : https://www.dropbox.com/s/32phfik7exskji8/Rig%20O%27Mortis%20X.jpg



for better visualization of dark, dusty and death feel it usually has : https://www.dropbox.com/s/yxg9psfx5twrkh3/Rig%20O%27Mortis%20X%20%28Dark%20setup%29.jpg

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Next update, might introduce some real new extremly heavy "friends"...

P.S : i see sometimes my perspective is a bit "off" and pics still a bit crappy and therefor details aren't always very clear, nonetheless hope the "general ideas" are well vehiculated
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You've got some nice concepts there. Both versions of the Rig'O'Mortis you've got there look pretty cool. I can't help but feel something is missing from the front of the more traditional (Pete 379/KW W900) inspired Rig. Some form of reinforced bumper/bull-bar/ramming implement/bulldozer blade instrument of destruction is needed up front
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Thanks again for the feedback, espacially since i think you're also right :P (furthermore, really appreciate all you models, love their 70's/80's retro look with carma sauce, hope you intend to include them in CR: the more cars, the merrier ^^). I've therefor done a quick search on the net to try to find inspiration from the bull bars/ nudge bars already being made. Some of the most impressive ones are those found on the heavy haulers (instead of the usual highway big rigs) and in particular, those fitted on the Australian "road trains".

Instead of drawing something new or over my previous sketch, i've actually found something that could be a new proper (as in carma worthy) interpretation of Mother Trucker's vehicle (while still keeping in mind that it's always possible to mix/shift/copy elements from other concepts in order to try and make a design "more perfect").

http://www.diecastmodels.co/heavy-haul/

I'm sending you this link i came accross and you'll see Drake Collectbles' Kenworth T909 Prime Mover. If it were to be adjusted a little bit to fit Carmageddon, it sure would be one badass mother trucker. The bull bars feel really tough. Another really cool thing about this version of the T909 prime mover is the fact that it really feels (at least to me) that it has the right length (most versions in the real life pics almost always look too short).

Browsing then through that site i came to realize that one great thing about diecast manufacturers is that most of the time, they do all the research work for you lol. Just look at all the different paint jobs possible and even more all those different vehicles you maybe didn't even know existed (which could be new sources of inspiration for new characters).

Hope you get my point.

P.S : Will upload new sketches maybe later on tonight or another day this week
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The Blood Eagle wrote:

Vehicles : Aero car and Aero truck


Drivers : Mr. Mouse and Mrs. Pussycat


Description : Aero car and Aero Truck are made to have the best air penetration designs. Nonetheless because of a design flaw in Aero truck and the important turbulent wake it generates, Aero car is easily prone to wheelings when behind Aero truck (obvious dick joke there for those who won't get it)


Mr. Mouse and Mrs Pussycat (initially thought of Mr Stallion and Mrs. Pig but seemed much funnier with mouse and cat) are circus robots (explaining their childish and human friendly look) applying their programs to the letter : the cat and mouse game and therefor carma is for them the perfect event. Simply instead of having the cat chase the mouse, it's the mouse chasing the cat. Meant to be an ANALogy to the Tom & Jerry cartoons (...)


Snort... heheh... hehehueh... hohahehehue... HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
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Hey man, turns out you are great at drawing people, lots of ideas there, Im keen on uh.. Some of them, some cars there have nice orignal designs and stuff, and some other stuff just seems a little odd? I strangly allways like limos tho.. I really need to make one at some point.

BTW I did a car that was based on yours, but diffrent at the same time, hm, same idea tho, http://www.carmageddon.com/comment/54490#comment-54490

As for the other.. uhh, a pool limo with people in the back?.. um wouldent those girls just kinda?.. call out heh carma is not really the place for cautions driving, passanger comfort.

Anyway I wana talk about trucks, I like trucks, I saw the links you posted and you know I allways kinda liked the short stubby look of mother trucker, Mabye long truck would get rid of that semi truck feel? Just to me it would a little, I agree with the roadtrain type guard at the front tho, But I allways felt it was a little more like a cow catcher from a train in C2, and id kinda like to go down that route more,

But still, nice pics. and uhh.. uhm... yeah the last one o.o
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Deadhart : Thanks, glad to know that it made at least one person laugh ^^

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Mad_Maxine (really love your sketches and add-ons for C1 and espacially C2 (level of detailling is really impressive considering the engine) :

- thanks for the compliment. But here, it's mainly technicality. Sure, it's cool when you know you can manage the basics. It also really helps then to draw whatever you want. Nonetheless, i believe that's not truly the most important thing. The ideas and originality in the sketches/painting/image.. would be more important. I mean you can always improve your technical skills but finding the good and right idea isn't necessarily as easy.. Picasso had a good quote on the matter "learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist". Makes sense in a way, and if he said it, must be true lol.. But again art is pure in itself, every style is as good as any other i suppose.

- For your sketches, like always, really love the idea of seeing something new. Your vehicles all have that great carma feel and never lack with imagination which really is superb. But, regarding the DS (which is also very good in itself), wouldn't turning the limo into a break take out a little this limo feeling you're so fond of? and who did you imagine as a driver? i mean, after all, what also makes carma characters so "special" is always this mix of extreme cars and crazy drivers whom fit the vehicles (BTW really love that new female driver in underpants (hmmm, want more :P) and cock man's costume is pur wtf lol)

- As for the girls in the jacuzzi of the Spectre concept, i saw them as whores or escort girls if you prefer "hired" by the driver. let's simply say that maybe they love a good thrill

- For the truck style, i agree, when too long (like seen of some expo trucks), it then has a stupid look. when too short though, to me, it feels too compressed, "childish"/"toysish" and not as "powerful" as it could.. personal preferences. Like it was revealled in AC's franchise, "nothing is true, everything is permitted"
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Im glad ya like my stuff too, heh.

I dont know what you mean by break take out tho.. hm it is a limo. it has all limo ish stuff, luxury seats, food, a bar, a big flat screen tv, the little seat at the edge or whatever, Mabye some neon lighting up in the roof area, and some curtins around the windows, forgot about them.

Trucks. yeah. well uh. short trucks can be cool too ya know.

I jsut want to add that how long a truck is, is not allways the thing that makes it look odd, heres an example

These trucks are probly about the same lenth.



So no matter how long or short, the thing that makes it look right is just the style its all done, you know something like a shorter sleeper cab would make a regular truck look like it has a longer rear end really..

and the pool limo,

Uh its not the fact that they get shaken around a lot in the back its just that.. its a pool, and no matter how well you hold on I imagine this to happen.


Trust me, Ive been sat in the back of a pickup truck before.

Also. uh.. I hope you dont mind me saying the peace maker looks like 3d glasses or something :B
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There already was a piecemaker in the splat pack.
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- By "break" i meant station wagon style (like Ed Hunter), my bad

- for the trucks, i agree, sometimes some feel too long and dull, other times some feel too short and like a photoshop montage and once in a while, some just seem to feel right.. no point arguing since i agree with you :) All depends on how model is finished : for exemple, sometimes sleeper cab is way too big for the chassis, others times a sleeper cab would make the whole truck have more harmonious proportions (or not) and so on ...

- for the pool in the back, it's always possible to add optional "seatbelts" to ensure the passengers won't be flying off after the first jump. Meanwhile, it would really be challenging the physics of the game ; if the passenger problem is fixed, there would still be all the water in the pool problem.. But it's carma, sometimes things can just be plain crazy and stupid. Not all drivers care nor pay attention to what would be the most ingenious design choices to win the event (look at Vlad for exemple :P)..but thinking a little about it, it would finally give you a good reason to go into the water or acid pits (with passengers jumping off or turning into skelettons (like in Mortal Kombat))
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Wagon limo, its what I wanted. seemed to make sence with the more space towords the rear keeping the roof the same hight and all and adding that extra bar and sofa and such. also the rear hatch could open.. so yeah tahts some kinda emergency exit.

Uhm, yeah the acid I did not think of that, Tho autoscum do not seem affrected by it.. heh unless those race suits are actully chemical and heat suits too? hmm.

if someone jumps out of a car I wonder if that suddenly makes them a ped.

Whooa.. I should stop before the GTA conversation comes up.

anyway yeah Was your piece maker anything to do with the splatpack car at all? or coencidence?
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Helomyname : thanks for the info. believe me or not (doesn't matter to me) but i made my concept unaware of the mentioned character (name just seemed appropriate to me at the time).. lol either way seems very unlikely anyone will try to implement these concepts in game with all the work already going on and not being their own babies/creations which is ok :P It's fanart after all, take it for what it is

Sure not the source material but now that you've pointed this out to me, really hate to say it, but here much prefer my interpretation (more depth and symbolism with what peacemaker stands for and the easy parallel with pieces, steamroller, etc..). Could also very likely be me not getting the joke with the 2cv
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